Anyway, the game had cards in addition to the board, and it got me thinking about how useful cards would be to my RPG sessions.
Come to think of it, using cards is also something I should do more often.
I think I disliked dealing with cards because of 4e; it practically required you to browse through your "cards" every round to find the right power, etc. I dislike that idea not only in practice but also on principle.
However, I used to LOVE D&D cards back in the TSR days... Specially those from Dragonquest!
And I enjoyed playing with cards this week. One mechanic I particularly enjoyed is discarding; you have a maximum number of cards to hold, and when you get something new, you must discard something else.
Such a mechanic is obviously well-suited for items. With one obvious advantage: item cards do not make me feel like I'm looking at the character sheet, but at actual items - like my character would be in order to solve a puzzle, decide what items to carry, etc.
Cards representing monsters and spells are cool as well, mainly to avoid lots of page-flipping.
I think the main difference is, these are things you actually have - most are things you can actually see (unlike a "clever shot" or "rapid shot" from 4e). They strengthen immersion instead of making you feel like you're playing a character sheet instead of an actual character.
Of course, you could argue that there is no difference between a "rapid shot" power and a "fireball" power. And I agree, up to a point - the main reason I'd like to use spell cards is because there are SO MANY spells to choose from that this would just make things easier.
However, there is another conceptual difference, at least in my head - the fireball is an actual THING in old school D&D. Anyone can tell when a wizard is using a fireball. It EXISTS in some vancian spell slot inside your head. You might even CHOOSE the spell BEFOREHAND, and CARRY it in your mind - it occupies SPACE. You can write the spell down in a grimoire or scroll, etc. A "rapid shot" is not a "thing"; it REPRESENTS an action an archer could take. If you miss a "rapid shot", it is likely that no one could even tell you TRIED to "rapid shot" in the first place... unlike a fireball.
Yes, they are pretty much the same in 4e and, you could argue, in 5e, since spells slots work a bit differently now. But anyway, I prefer this old school flavor.
Anyway, now I feel like buying some cards. I didn't buy many back in the day because, well, they were too expensive. Looking at cards now... They are still expensive in most cases, and just UGLY in other cases. But we'll try anyway.
Gale Force Nine
The "official" D&D 5e cards.
Monsters look cool enough, and the art is certainly high quality. However, I really I prefer the old ones (see above). Much more inspiring, with movement and backgrounds... I don't quite get it. WotC has access to these old classic pieces of art. If that is not enough, they should at least learn something from Magic the Gathering. Have you seem any MtG monsters without movement or backgrounds?
Spell are not illustrated, but are good enough, I guess. They have "martial power" cards if you like that, too...
Prices are reasonable - not much more than, say, 10c per card in most sets.
Unfortunately, item cards - my main interest - were apparently done in such a lazy manner that it turns my stomach. Just check some customer images on amazon.
Let's look for itens elsewhere...
The Deck of Many Weapons
The art is a bit cartoony, but looks cool and gets the point across. I find this a bit expensive - 15 dollars for 33 cards? - but I might consider it. Find it here.
There is also this*. It seems to be the most functional of the bunch, since I can add my own info (although it doesn't contain much info of it's own - for example, the damage, weight or cost of the greatsword below). Decent price, too. The art seems too "computer-based" for my tastes, but good enough.
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There is plenty of FREE cards online. Some of it is of higher quality or usefulness than the "official" stuff, but you must print them for yourself... Unless there is an easy way to do that, it won't work for me. But if you're interested, check this and this.
Have you ever tried playing D&D with cards? Did I miss some interesting product? Let me know in the comments!
I love the idea of cards for items and monsters, but I personally would want to do my own take. For example, if I ever get around to developing an attack matrix table I like, I would have one long edge of the card be the matrix to just roll and read off.ReplyDelete
Spells could hopefully have all the info required, with a table for upcasting (no mental maths required, just reading). However, as I'm sort of tempted to try and develop a "build a spell" mana system instead of a discrete spell slot system, I may end up with cards just being representation of components.
Which is also a neat visual. Using a weapon speed system, you can only place 1 card per tick, so the visual of one person throwing down cards while enemies try and counter could be fun.
Yeah, I get it. I'd like to make my own cards too! It would solve all sorts of issues, and I love the idea of the matrix. The main thing stopping me is that I have no artistic talents, and I like to have cards with art, to show the players, etc. That's why I am leaning toward the Inkwell Ideas cards (see above) - it has lots of space to write your own stuff.Delete
I just want to add to this that my brain decided to take this spell card idea the extra mile:Delete
There's a card game called "Gloom" where you stack modifiers on other cards. A gimmick is that the cards are transparent, so that you can read the full pile of effects.
I just wonder if there is a way to make an intuitive system that doesn't become a pain in the arse to use. The imagery in my head _seems_ fun, but it might be too much of the wrong sort of fiddly.
The right sort of fiddly is more of a free form "build a case for an effect to occur" that also ties the feel of a weapon speed system into the caster side of things.
The idea of sleeves + dry erase marker, below, could get the "transparent" effect.Delete
True. I was thinking if one could design a template to create paper "stencils" (connect written components together by strands to form a framework) and laminate the whole thing, that could work.Delete
I have my spells, my NPCS and my monster manual on index cards.ReplyDelete
I make my own cards, though I do not make art. Obviously, they're great to represent equipment, but I use them to track things as well.ReplyDelete
I put all the cards in sleeves and give everyone a dry erase marker. I run a game where most damage taken causes conditions or modifiers, so players have cards with the conditions and rules for those and check boxes to fill as things happen. They have a card with their ability scores and check boxes for temporary modifiers.
You can even give players cards as tiny white boards for taking notes. Some players will take temporary notes on these even if they normally don't bother to take notes.
Sleeves + dry erase marker? Sounds like a great idea! Will do!Delete